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2026-01-13T16:30:03Z

Trick Attack (Lvl 30)

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	Ex: (THF>)(PLD>)(<Mob)(<WAR/NIN).... THF and WAR at 1000+TP. Mob is currently facing PLD, with THF behind PLD. WAR then provokes, uses war cry, followed by using Sturmwind (GAxe). Mob turns to WAR. THF then uses SA+TA+Gust Slash to create Detonation for a ton of damage. Mob turns around back to PLD.		Ex: (THF>)(PLD>)(<Mob)(<WAR/NIN).... THF and WAR at 1000+TP. Mob is currently facing PLD, with THF behind PLD. WAR then provokes, uses war cry, followed by using Sturmwind (GAxe). Mob turns to WAR. THF then uses SA+TA+Gust Slash to create Detonation for a ton of damage. Mob turns around back to PLD.

			Another common tactic is for the tank to provoke the mob from the start. Then a melee/nin gets behind the mob for you to SATA on. The melee/nin may get some hate but they have shadows that will mitigate damage. Just make sure the mob is turned toward the tank or else SATA will fail in this situation!

	===Mug (Lvl 35)===		===Mug (Lvl 35)===

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The Closer

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	Study up on skillchains with these charts:		Study up on skillchains with these charts:
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	https://horizonffxi.wiki/w/images/5/56/HorizonSkillchainChartbyGrayson.png
			[[File:HorizonSkillchainChartbyGrayson.png\|thumb\|center\|700px\|Skillchain Chart]]
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	https://horizonffxi.wiki/w/images/c/cf/HorizonSkillchainChart2.png
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			[[File:HorizonSkillchainChart2.png\|thumb\|center\|700px\| Level 2-3 Skillchains Chart]]
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	===Trick Attack (Lvl 30)===		===Trick Attack (Lvl 30)===

imported>Txtoast: /* The Closer */

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The Closer

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	'''Consider teaming up with a melee in your group to create a skillchain.''' Watch you and your party members' TP. Wait for them to use a weapon skill, then follow with using a SA with your own WS and create a SC. The damage caused by the SA + WS + SC created can be epic.		'''Consider teaming up with a melee in your group to create a skillchain.''' Watch you and your party members' TP. Wait for them to use a weapon skill, then follow with using a SA with your own WS and create a SC. The damage caused by the SA + WS + SC created can be epic.

			[[File:HXUIPartyTP.png\|thumb\|center\|Melee 3 and 5 have TP to skillchain (HXUI addon). Be ready to close a chain!]]

	At lower levels you want to aim to close '''Distortion''' with Wasp Sting/Viper Bite and '''Detonation''' with Gust Slash using daggers. Many weapons open for Daggers to close skillchains: polearms, katanas, great katanas, bows, guns, great axes, great swords, axes, hand-to-hand, and also summoner avatars can open for THFs as well. You'll need to learn when to use either Wasp Sting or Gust Slash depending on what weapon is being used to open for you. You can also use the chains addon to help you figure out what weapon to use.		At lower levels you want to aim to close '''Distortion''' with Wasp Sting/Viper Bite and '''Detonation''' with Gust Slash using daggers. Many weapons open for Daggers to close skillchains: polearms, katanas, great katanas, bows, guns, great axes, great swords, axes, hand-to-hand, and also summoner avatars can open for THFs as well. You'll need to learn when to use either Wasp Sting or Gust Slash depending on what weapon is being used to open for you. You can also use the chains addon to help you figure out what weapon to use.

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2025-10-31T14:08:57Z

The Puller

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	*Learn when to disengage the mob that the party is fighting and go bring another mob. Typically its around 5-10% remaining HP. You don't want your party waiting too long for you to bring back the next mob as that will slow down exp gains. You want to aim for consecutive exp chain #5s (exp chains are time dependent, your group needs to defeat the next mob that checks Even Match or higher within a certain amount of time to get the next chain). Some strong parties can obtain chain #6+.		*Learn when to disengage the mob that the party is fighting and go bring another mob. Typically its around 5-10% remaining HP. You don't want your party waiting too long for you to bring back the next mob as that will slow down exp gains. You want to aim for consecutive exp chain #5s (exp chains are time dependent, your group needs to defeat the next mob that checks Even Match or higher within a certain amount of time to get the next chain). Some strong parties can obtain chain #6+.
	*Some types of mobs link with each other by sight or sound. Meaning if you pull a mob and another one of the same type sees or is within hearing distance of it, they will also aggro you. '''Communicate with your support/black mage if you get a link so they are prepared to sleep/ga or bind links. WHM/BLM can start reliably binding mobs level 30+ and sleeping mobs at level 40+ with Elemental Seal.'''		*Some types of mobs link with each other by sight or sound. Meaning if you pull a mob and another one of the same type sees or is within hearing distance of it, they will also aggro you. '''Communicate with your support/black mage if you get a link so they are prepared to sleep/ga or bind links. WHM/BLM can start reliably binding mobs level 30+ and sleeping mobs at level 40+ with Elemental Seal.'''
	*Be aware of your main healer's MP. If they are low on mp, then consider pausing pulls for a few seconds to give them time to recover some MP.		*Be aware of your main healer's MP. If they are low on mp, then consider pausing pulls for a few seconds to give them time to recover some MP. If your party has a support or backup healer (etc.: blm/whm, drg/mage) then you can pull a bit sooner because they will cover heals while the main healer is still resting mp.
	*At level 25+ '''Flee''' is great to use for pulling a mob quickly to camp. Consider using it on higher chains when time start running out sooner to make the next chain.		*At level 25+ '''Flee''' is great to use for pulling a mob quickly to camp. Consider using it on higher chains when time start running out sooner to make the next chain.

imported>Txtoast: /* Later Levels Tips (50-75+) */

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Later Levels Tips (50-75+)

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	*BLM in your parties will continue to sync with you pretty well throughout the leveling process. You both want chains to happen.		*BLM in your parties will continue to sync with you pretty well throughout the leveling process. You both want chains to happen.
	*'''Consider being a party leader at the higher levels.''' THF invite rate continues to drop in favor of BRDs. But your party can be a good one with or without a bard with you as the puller, debuffer, and hate controller. A good THF can fit the "support" spot of a party well if they are using all of their tools acting as a hybrid DPS/utility. They will save the healer a lot of mp by controlling hate. Running without a BRD will also save you hours of yelling for a BRD as well.		*'''Consider being a party leader at the higher levels.''' THF invite rate continues to drop in favor of BRDs. But your party can be a good one with or without a bard with you as the puller, debuffer, and hate controller. A good THF can fit the "support" spot of a party well if they are using all of their tools acting as a hybrid DPS/utility. They will save the healer a lot of mp by controlling hate. Running without a BRD will also save you hours of yelling for a BRD as well.
	**Tank + Healer + 3DD + THF/the puller, is a good setup if you are making use of all of your abilities/utility. You could swap a DD for BRD if you can get one.		**Tank + Healer + 3DD + THF/the puller, is a good setup if you are making use of all of your abilities/utility. You could swap a DD for BRD if you can get one. If you get a BRD, you can sub /WAR for more DPS (berserk) since the BRD most likely will be subbing /NIN and pull.
	***Consider targeting mobs that have no AoE damage type moves for this type of setup: Crabs, Crawlers, Bats, Birds, Dhalmels, Courels, Beetles, Bees, Raptors, Doomed, Buggards, and Sheep all make good targets. '''Try to avoid flies, evil weapons, rabbits, beastmen, courels (lots of status ailments), and rocs if you don't have a support or drg/mage as one of the DPS. BLM may also consider subbing /WHM and leaning more as an off-healer/cleanser when facing AoE mobs.'''		***Consider targeting mobs that have no AoE damage type moves for this type of setup: Crabs, Crawlers, Bats, Birds, Dhalmels, Courels, Beetles, Bees, Raptors, Doomed, Buggards, and Sheep all make good targets. '''Try to avoid flies, evil weapons, rabbits, beastmen, courels (lots of status ailments), and rocs if you don't have a support or drg/mage as one of the DPS. BLM may also consider subbing /WHM and leaning more as an off-healer/cleanser when facing AoE mobs.'''
	***Consider having only a DRK or PLD in your parties if the main healer is WHM and you are acting as the support role/puller. WHM can only give mp to 1 party member at a time every 10 minutes with Devotion (usually PLD or DRK get it). BLM can usually get away without a refresh or devotion.		***Consider having only a DRK or PLD in your parties if the main healer is WHM and you are acting as the support role/puller. WHM can only give mp to 1 party member at a time every 10 minutes with Devotion (usually PLD or DRK get it). BLM can usually get away without a refresh or devotion.

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2025-10-24T15:13:46Z

The Closer

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	When 2 compatible weapon skills occur in succession, a skillchain is formed. Skillchains will deal extra damage to the monster your party is fighting and also opens up the opportunity for magic bursting by other party members.		When 2 compatible weapon skills occur in succession, a skillchain is formed. Skillchains will deal extra damage to the monster your party is fighting and also opens up the opportunity for magic bursting by other party members.

	'''Consider teaming up with a melee in your group to create a skillchain.''' Wait for them to use a weapon skill, then follow with using a SA with your own WS and create a SC. The damage caused by the SA + WS + SC created can be epic.		'''Consider teaming up with a melee in your group to create a skillchain.''' Watch you and your party members' TP. Wait for them to use a weapon skill, then follow with using a SA with your own WS and create a SC. The damage caused by the SA + WS + SC created can be epic.
	At lower levels you want to aim to close '''Distortion''' with Wasp Sting/Viper Bite and '''Detonation''' with Gust Slash using daggers. Many weapons open for Daggers to close skillchains: polearms, katanas, great katanas, bows, guns, great axes, great swords, axes, hand-to-hand, and also summoner avatars can open for THFs as well. You'll need to learn when to use either Wasp Sting or Gust Slash depending on what weapon is being used to open for you. You can also use the chains addon to help you figure out what weapon to use.		At lower levels you want to aim to close '''Distortion''' with Wasp Sting/Viper Bite and '''Detonation''' with Gust Slash using daggers. Many weapons open for Daggers to close skillchains: polearms, katanas, great katanas, bows, guns, great axes, great swords, axes, hand-to-hand, and also summoner avatars can open for THFs as well. You'll need to learn when to use either Wasp Sting or Gust Slash depending on what weapon is being used to open for you. You can also use the chains addon to help you figure out what weapon to use.

imported>Txtoast: /* Sneak Attack (Lv 15) */

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Sneak Attack (Lv 15)

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	Expect to pull some hate after SA and especially after SA+WS. It shouldn't be too much of an issue though since the mob will take a lot of damage and should be dead soon.		Expect to pull some hate after SA and especially after SA+WS. It shouldn't be too much of an issue though since the mob will take a lot of damage and should be dead soon.

			Later on when you start building armor sets you can adjust your macros to something like:
			<br>/ja "Sneak Attack" <me>
			<br>/equipset 1

	===The Closer===		===The Closer===

imported>Txtoast: /* Party Preparation */

2025-10-24T14:50:50Z

Party Preparation

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	/ra <t><br>		/ra <t><br>
	/equipset 2 <br>		/equipset 2 <br>
	/wait 3 <br>		/wait 4 <br>
	/equipset 1 <br>		/equipset 1 <br>

imported>Txtoast: /* Sneak Attack (Lv 15) */

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Sneak Attack (Lv 15)

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	<br>/ja "Sneak Attack <me>		<br>/ja "Sneak Attack <me>
	<br>/ws "Gust Slash" <t>		<br>/ws "Gust Slash" <t>
	<br>/ws "Wasp Sting" <me>		<br>/ws "Wasp Sting" <t>

	These macros next to each other will help you pull off SAing your WSs easier.		These macros next to each other will help you pull off SAing your WSs easier.

imported>Txtoast: /* Sneak Attack (Lv 15) */

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Sneak Attack (Lv 15)

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	'''SA works with Weapon skills!''' If you use Sneak Attack, then use a weaponskill like Wasp Sting or Gust Slash behind the mob, it will significantly boost the damage of the WS. THF has the potential to be the highest DPS in their exp party if they are properly using SA with their weapon skills.		'''SA works with Weapon skills!''' If you use Sneak Attack, then use a weaponskill like Wasp Sting or Gust Slash behind the mob, it will significantly boost the damage of the WS. THF has the potential to be the highest DPS in their exp party if they are properly using SA with their weapon skills.

	Consider creating a ~~macro~~:		Consider creating separate macros:
	<br>/ja "Sneak Attack <me>		<br>/ja "Sneak Attack <me>
	<br>/wait 1
	<br>/ws "Gust Slash" <t>		<br>/ws "Gust Slash" <t>
			<br>/ws "Wasp Sting" <me>

	~~This~~ ~~macro~~ will help you pull off SAing your WSs easier~~. Some players like to separate their SA with WS macros as well~~.		These macros next to each other will help you pull off SAing your WSs easier.

	Expect to pull some hate after SA and especially after SA+WS. It shouldn't be too much of an issue though.		Expect to pull some hate after SA and especially after SA+WS. It shouldn't be too much of an issue though since the mob will take a lot of damage and should be dead soon.

	===The Closer===		===The Closer===